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[Parhelion69]

After Yaguchi, Kago, and even Winona Ryder, I've just gotten used to the fact that my favorite idols will have feet of clay and do stupid and deplorable things.

I sure know how to pick 'em!

^ Were you a Koharu fan as well?

[TotallyUncool]

I basically hold idols up to the same standards as I do people I meet in real life -- which means that I expect them to be imperfect to the point of near (if not actual) disaster, and to frequently say and do things which would not hold up at all under critical public scrutiny.

[321BreakinOut]

^ Ugh why can't everyone fan on the internet have that same mindset ! The fandom would be so less annoying.....

[BerryzCelebration]

Like I said before: Sayaka's a grown woman and she should be able to choose her own career without everyone having a shit storm.

Now can we drop this topic?

[stam4o]

Yeah, can we? It's been enough of a Koha bad-mouthing already. I feel like whenever a critics of an OG is going on, she has to "magically" show up somehow and it's never in the good way.

[Chibs]

Ah, but just an aside to set something straight...

Koharu, on the other hand, was (from memory) basically told to leave in so many words, then went on whatever radio show and said things like "Yeah they kicked me out I didn't really have any friends and I didn't really enjoy being an idol".

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Koharu's account of her tenure in MM and graduation is almost entirely based around her loving doing Kirari, being lonely, and her physical constitution being poor due to her diet, massive over-work, and abuse of medications/supplements. She says that she graduated at her own request, wanting to become a model.

http://minimonimania.files.wordpress.co ... ersion.pdf

Obviously her book is relatively narcissistic and one-sided, but it's definitely her account of what happened, which is NOT that she was kicked out.

The person i feel sorry for is Niigaki. She tried so hard to make Koharu not be miserable and at the same to keep her from doing stuff the management would get mad at her for. From what I remember the other girls werent really sorry to see her(Koharu) go.

[otaku_blue]

I basically hold idols up to the same standards as I do people I meet in real life -- which means that I expect them to be imperfect to the point of near (if not actual) disaster, and to frequently say and do things which would not hold up at all under critical public scrutiny.

I judge people just as much irl like maybe because of her divorce her royalties from HP arent enough and she needs to do something asap to make money

[Celedam]

You mean residuals, not royalties. (A small but important difference; creators get royalties, performers get residuals.) And as far as I know, agencies in Japan don't pay residuals. Individual talents are salaried employees, and while they may get bonuses for particularly good months, they get diddly-squat after they leave.

That's why a talent leaving an agency, by scandal or by choice, is such a big deal.

[Sohee]

Personally I don't have a problem with her working with Akimoto or w/e. I wouldn't even have a problem with her doing porn if she wanted to.
The fact that she talks negatively and whines about the group/related that made her a somebody in the first place is what bugs me. She could easily leave that part out and still do whatever she wanna do to get money. Unless someone pays her 10k yen per complaint or w/e.

[Chibs]

^basically the most interesting thing about her was she was in momusu. So that is what she has to talk about.