[6/19] Berryz Kobo 32nd single: Golden Chinatown / Sayonara Usotsuki no Watashi

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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby DadaPaPa » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:19 am

^^
1. I wouldn't. Isn't AKB still uber popular?
And I thought appearing constantly on TV was regarded a good way to actually promote the group she's in?
2. I really do not agree on the "punching bag" argument. I mean, yes, it's a big and essential part of the character to get those reaction to make it complete but is not the only thing she does. She also manages quite well to be laughed with. Her character is not that one-sided.

3. "how we see it"? Ah, I guess I get it then... And seeing resop2's post... Yep, I guess I get it... :glare:
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby randompasserby » Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:41 am

On your second point, link please? I would really love to see those shows because like the others, everything I've ever seen of her in varieties a very large percentage of the jokes is at her expense. She is not as hated as Sayu precisely because of that, she invites ridicule to herself while Sayu dishes it out the other way around.
I really can't see it any other way unless you can give me some references I haven't seen, what with Momochi being one of the most popular name nowadays with the uza-kawaii character type.

On topic, I think Sayonara Usotsuki is a step in a good direction for Berryz if they still wanted to go after the cool Berryz image. Still clinically disinterested in Chinatown. I'm very surprised myself that this single sold as much as it did but credit where credit is due, congrats girls :thumbs-up: !
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby esm » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:23 am

wotakubrandon wrote:I like how when y'all don't like a song you look for reasons outside of it being good as to why it's successful.

As if how well it sells more often than not reflects the quality of the single.

People blame outside factors like promotion all the time when the sales number is crappy.
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby wotakubrandon » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:47 am

esm wrote:As if how well it sells more often than not reflects the quality of the single.
You're right. I should've said group not song.

sb wrote:If this was Momusu or ℃-ute about to outsell their own best single people would be lining up to kiss their asses and go on and on about them and their greatness. Berryz does it and it's excuse heaven.
Basically my point.
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby zam_ho » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:04 pm

On "Momo is more successful than Sayu"...
- Momo hosts her own show, Sayu never did.
- A TV station actually thinks it was worth sending Momo all the way to New York to get her hair done XD
- Momo gets more live appearences than Sayu.

I still love Sayu more than Momo tho XD
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby MomoFangirl » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:02 pm

^
Sayu also has a radio show she hosts, she started hosting it before Momo started hosting hers.. Her radio show is called "Konya mo Usa-chan Peace".

But yeah, Momo is more successful than Sayu (the people saying otherwise just really don't like her character.. :P).
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby resop2 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:39 pm

I would not say that Momoko is unsuccessful as a talent. But, I would say that her success as a talent does not help Berryz Kobo in any way. It helps Momoko, but it doesn't help Berryz Kobo.
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby Sohee » Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:46 pm

A lot more people know about Berryz Kobo today than they did 2 years ago. And that is thanks to Momochi, believe it or not. Other comedians and talents find out about Berryz Kobo because they appear on shows with Momochi and thanks to THAT they also bring it up every now and then and wham exposure. AGAIN, that does NOT translate into sales whatsoever. And it doesn't mean that they'll get praised like Momusu is by Matsuko DX. BUT they are getting mentioned A LOT MORE these days than they would have if Momochi hadn't been successful.
That quiz thing that Iwao did about Berryz? A lot less likely that it'd have happened if Momochi wasn't out there.
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby zam_ho » Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:45 pm

Random: Sanma-san remembers Momo. Too bad Tom Cruise didn't XD

Chii following in Momo's footsteps perhaps. Chii will be stepping in for Chisato on Gogosuma tonite. Not sure if its just for tonite or permanent.
https://twitter.com/Berryz_kobo/status/ ... 8621526016
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Re: [6/19] Berryz 32nd : Golden Chinatown/Sayonara Usotsuki.

Postby Amped » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:15 pm

Amped wrote:Berryz youtube vids are back

#1 - Chinami at the H!P Shop in Akihabara last week
[youtube]lPZc243vEf8[/youtube]

#2 - Chinami, Risako event in Fukuoka on 6/18
[youtube]YsIKPPjrA9c[/youtube]


#3 - Chinami and Risako at the Venus Fort release event on 6/23
[youtube]UVqV3SpqJ4k[/youtube]
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