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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby wotakubrandon » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:29 am

erilaz wrote:It blows my mind that Hikki has never been on Kouhaku before.
Right? Kinki too.


I've been having an Exposé dance party for like three days. :music:
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Zunu » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:20 am

esm wrote:Tove Lo's career as a singer only began when she's 26-27, and she was mainly a songwriter before, but that's probably an exception, especially since coming from Stockholm there's a ton of connections there (and she's great as a pop songwriter).

If you look at some other pop artists with songs on the radio in the past year or so, there are also younger people like Shawn Mendes (18), Zara Larsson (turning 19 in a few days), Alessia Cara (20), Chance the Rapper (23), etc.

Random, but I've been listening to a lot of hippie music and girl groups from the 60s a lot lately. I'd just leave a Spotify playlist on all day (even when I'm sleeping, though I'd turn the volume down a bit).


Shawn Mendes is only 18? I thought he was like 23-24 tbh, I guess he sounds more mature? And I suppose Sia's career didn't really take off until she was around 30. 25-26 if you want to count Zero 7. But she's an exception for sure.

Anyway, about oldie music, lately I've been playing the hell out of Eartha Kitt, who is only famous these days for Santa Baby, I think. But in her day she was an amazing talent who got blacklisted in the late 60's for speaking out too forcefully and unapologetically against the Vietnam War. Apparently she hurt Lady Bird Johnson's feelings back when putting the First Lady in her place was considered a faux pas.



On Spotify, see for example: spotify:album:6gOVmmV26wBBgxUtbF8YZd

Also recently I have a thing for like 50's era music with that ersatz "exotic" sound, e.g.



I love how every era in the history of recorded music produced its own characteristic gems, the vast majority of which is destined for complete obscurity. I mean even with Jpop every so often I'll hear a completely rando song from a never-quite-popular group like Dorothy Little Happy, and think, wow this is really good, too bad nobody will ever hear it. Multiply that by 100 with the nearly infinite amount of music out there that never gets any radio play outside of the rare college station. My brother-in-law used to be a drummer in a St. Louis area band that never left the Midwest bus circuit, never released a major album, never appeared on TV, never got airplay but (according to my sister anyway) they were great and had loads of local fans until, like many groups, they eventually had to stop for economic reasons.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby erilaz » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:57 pm

^ Speaking of exotica, have you heard El Baile Alemán, the album of Kraftwerk covers by Uwe Schmidt as Señor Coconut y su Conjunto?

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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby rikkikow » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:46 pm

It's an exotica streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch!
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Amped » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:09 pm

E-girls NEW ALBUM song "All Day Long Lady" MV
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Amped » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:11 pm

new Avex girl group debut "Questy" from EXPG (EXILE dance and vocal school that trained E-girls and EXILE members).

http://questy-project.jp/
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby otaku_blue » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:41 pm

new Kpop girl group LOONA with a concept of "girl of the month" where they'll reveal a new member every month (12 girls) until their debut next year. the current formula is that the girls release one solo ballad by the new girl and a pop track with all the revealed members at the time. it's been really interesting to follow since all the girls so far have been great and the videos are surprisingly very high quality and shot in different parts of the world (London, Paris, Iceland, Japan). I really hope they can find success so they're not too in debt by the time they debut.

November 80s Pop Track - I'll be There (Japan)


December Solo Ballad Track - Let Me In (Iceland)
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Nayoko-Kihara » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:48 pm

Amped wrote:Questy
I'm not very into the song, but I'm even less into the fact that it seems to be another group where only one or two sing and the rest just dance.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby rikkikow » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:26 pm

It’s Wednesday. I hope your Wednesday is this stress free!

I will be hitting the mall today to finish Christmas shopping. The best part will be meeting up with old friends @ Tomi Sushi & Seafood Buffet. It’s the best.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby coconuts » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:02 am

I'm not sure where this kind of news would be posted... Anyway, Sashihara Rino is collaborating with MM '17 on AKB48's new album. The song is "Get you!".

http://natalie.mu/music/news/214656
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby boinsie » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:37 am

Wait what? :0 MM & AKB collaborating on an actual music release??

Remember back in the day when Sayumi got in trouble for even mentioning that she liked AKB's music on a radio show? How the times have changed.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby AyuHikaru » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:53 am

I think AKB should return the favor and collab on Morning Musume's never-coming-out new album.

*Waits for H!P fans to freak out at the very idea*

I'm glad times are changing, that "NEVER MENTION OTHER IDOL GROUPS EVER" mentality wasn't really helping with the fandom wars.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby keaine » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:58 am

Well, reactions seem to be kind of mixed on 2ch, so I don't know if things have changed that much.

EDIT: I'm seeing a lot of negative comments on twitter.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Amped » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:41 am

so that makes 13th gen's song debut on AKB's album.

M10.Get you !<サシニング娘。(指原莉乃&モーニング娘。'17)>:指原莉乃・譜久村 聖・生田衣梨奈・飯窪春菜・石田亜佑美・佐藤優樹・工藤遥・小田さくら・尾形春水・野中美希・牧野真莉愛・羽賀朱音・加賀 楓・横山玲奈


The unit is called Sashining Musume. サシニング娘。The song is sung in two parts. It is a double center with Sashihara and Masaki.

Yasushi Akimoto wrote the song. Mizuki says It will be "the idol" song, so it will be different and won't have that H!P feeling to it. The director told Maachan shout some lines in her recording.

Sashihara praises 2ch for helping her discover MM

The article says it has been recorded already and the song is near completion.

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http://mantan-web.jp/2016/12/26/2016122 ... 3000c.html
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2083622/full/
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2016/12/26/017/
https://mdpr.jp/music/detail/1649479
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Nayoko-Kihara » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:12 pm

I don't feel anything positive about it, but for the most part I don't really care and I probably won't listen to it. (Or rather, I feel somewhat negatively about the situation but indifference instead of curiosity toward the song tiself.) If it shows up in a TV performance somewhere that is easily accessible (for a time) I might watch it. Like a 30% negative / 70% indifference split here.

It won't be worth putting time and effort into finding it upon release since I already know I can count the number of AKB (-style) songs I like on fewer than five fingers, idol songs in general outside of Hello! Project are hit or miss, Akimoto songs are even more hit or miss and I think he's creepy. My only hope is that it doesn't turn into some long-lasting thing / it disappears after Sashihara graduates.

Edit: I hadn't thought of this though. This is a bummer. I'll amend that to 50-50% split.*
Amped wrote:Wota on twitter feel bad for 13th gen because their first song participation is going be on AKB's album from Akimoto instead of Tsunku and H!P.
http://helloprohealing.blog.jp/50306986.html
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Moh » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:36 pm

Well I'm interested. :lol: I guess I more or less just like the idea of "rivals" doing a collab.

Plus, no one has an obligation to listen to it, soooo... :fear:
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby AyuHikaru » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:59 pm

I guess I just never got the AKB vs H!P thing. I've been in H!P's camp 100% here and I think it's fine if people are AKB fans too, and think it's kind of nice they are willing to collab when there was a time where they had to basically ignore each other. It's a big step for the companies involved, but I don't think anyone is expecting all the fans to be on board. Fans are rabid and it's hard to change their thinking sometimes (Even Twenty One Pilots "Heathens" is partly about the new fans coming in and how the old fans refuse to accept them). Fans are loyal to a fault, really.

And I don't see this as the official debut for 13th gen. It's just a collab song, people need to take a breather.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby Nayoko-Kihara » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:10 pm

^ I don't know if that was even partially for me but if my thoughts came off as trying to make it a one vs the other deal, I apologize.
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Re: 6th Station ~Other Bands for H!P Fans~

Postby forgetmenots » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:20 pm

This is excellent, I imagine the promotion will do so much for Morning Musume among the general public. The idea of a "cross-company" idol group duet is also a really cool idea.

I like very few songs by Akimoto, but I will happily listen to it.

I also don't count it as 13th's debut, for me being upset over whose song they are first recorded singing as seems like a bit much. And they will get nothing but Chorus parts I'm betting, so it'd be like they weren't even there. I don't know how solo parts are divvied up in AKB songs, but I don't think there will be that many girls with solos other than Sasshi and apparently Maachan since since she's the other lead? Fukuchan was mentioned in an article as well... Ayumi and Sakura perhaps?

This is more helpful for MM than detrimental. Even if AKB doesn't do any kind of promotional angle, it can really introduce them to a new audience who would never care otherwise.
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