H!P/etc Ranking Thread

[Zunu]

This clip shows H!P member popularity over time as counted by Google search lookups. Particularly notable, the enduring popularity of Ayaya, Goto, and the former original Minimoni members. Also other than a tiny tick by Marian, Riho was the last H!P member with any level of popularity at all. As far as the general public goes, the current members of Morning might as well not exist.

[yumepin]

I've spoken to a fairly good amount of Japanese folks from various backgrounds to practice my Japanese communication skills, and each time I make sure to ask them if they're familiar with Hello! Project. I'm well aware that not EVERYONE is into idols, but most of who I've met were only able to mention Minimoni, Ayaya, C-ute or songs like "Happy Summer Wedding" and "Renai Revolution 21". It made me a bit sad but when I look at how UF* currently promotes their idols and the content they put out, I'm not surprised. The fact that they haven't moved away from DVD Magazines for one is baffling. They rarely get promos or tie-ups. No proper Twitter accounts. There's no YouTube content that will draw in non-fans (take for example idol groups who release variety content on their channels). And to be frank a lot of the outfits they give the members for songs are outdated and bland. I will always love Hello! Project to death, and I don't think it's necessary for Hello! Project to drastically change things that make them unique, especially when some of these things are unique to J-Pop. However if the company ever wants to see a spike in popularity they're going to have to update a lot of their methods and take a look at why other groups are booming while they're not, especially during this time when it's easy to get drowned out in the influx of K-Pop and alt-idols

[Tobo_Junny135]

^I think how I came to know hello project was because Youtube recommended One • Two • Three to me, at the time I think that single was trending worldwide that even people outside of Japan had seen it. Perhaps it was due to MM transitioning into EDM music type singles mostly, which was much different to what the Platnium era and Golden Era had presented. Or perhaps it was the introduction of formation dancing - my point is it was something new and different, so maybe H!P may need to do something new and different with each of the groups. Perhaps make the new unit a revamped Kobushi Rock/Metal idol group or something I don’t know?

[yumepin]

That'd be cool! However music is one thing, since that's subjective right. But when I was referring to alt-idols, I was mostly referring to the fact that those groups tend to give their members more freedom in terms of personal style, social media, lyric writing, ect. You also have idols groups that upload documentary style videos, vlogs, fun outings, and various other content on their channels for free. This really draws in non-fans, whereas releasing such stuff on DVDs is super limited, low in quality and will pretty much only be bought/viewed by existing fans. My take is that they trash all their old school ways and update it for easier, more modern, accessible things.

I also have a huge bone to pick with OMAKE, S&S, and Hello!Station. Which admittedly all release interesting stuff now and then. However I'm wondering how many of the members actually enjoy doing cooking corners, nature outings and talk segments as their sole content? Yet alone how many people enjoy watching it. But lemme stop before this gets moved to the rant thread haha

[Amped]

H!P Olympics
Gold Medal - Kawamura Ayano (First Woman to be certified as a 1st class Tuna Dismantler)
Silver Medal - Nonaka Miki (Self-Improved Physically and Mentally)
Bronze Medal (Tie) - Kamikokuryo Moe / Makino Maria (Most Active in Media)

Gold Medal - Ai wa Ima, Ai wo Motometeru (Tsubaki Factory)
Silver Medal - Aisare Route A or B? (ANGERME)
Bronze Medal - Ren'ai Destiny ~Honne wo Ronjitai (Morning Musume. '21)

[Amped]

Billboard Japan's Yearly Charts 2021

Billboard Japan Top Singles Sales Year End 2021
#56 - Morning Musume '20 "Junjou Evidence / Gyuusaretai Dake na no ni" (12/16/20)
#62 - ANGERME "Hakkiri Shiyouze / Oyogenai Mermaid / Aisare Route A or B?" (6/23/21)
#68 - BEYOOOOONDS "Gekikara LOVE / Now Now Ningen / Konna Hazujanakatta!" (3/3/21)
#70 - Tsubaki Factory "Namida no Heroine Kouban Geki / Garakuta DIAMOND / Yakusoku Renraku Kinenbi" (11/17/21)
#73 - Juice=Juice "DOWN TOWN / Ganbarenai yo" (4/28/21)
http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/d ... &year=2021

Billboard Japan Top Album Sales Year End 2021
#85 - Morning Musume ’21 16th album - "16th~That's J-POP~" (3/31/21)
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/ ... &year=2021

Billboard Japan Top Download Albums
#45 - Morning Musume ’21 16th album - "16th~That's J-POP~" (3/31/21)
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/ ... &year=2021

Billboard JAPAN HOT 100 of the Year 2021
none
http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/d ... &year=2021

Billboard JAPAN HOT Albums of the Year 2021
#77 - Morning Musume ’21 16th album - "16th~That's J-POP~" (3/31/21)
http://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/d ... &year=2021

Year End 2020 comparison
viewtopic.php?p=256900#p256900

Another solid year for H!P.

All 5 H!P groups made the Top 100 Singles Sales chart this year. Morning Musume. '16th album made it on the Top 100 Album Sales charts. Tsubaki Factory's 2nd album "2nd STEP" couldn't stay on to make the charts.

Morning Musume. '21's 70th single and Juice=Juice's 15th single is part of next year's charts.

[Zunu]

Whipped up a quick graph based on Amped's posts (if the group had more than 1 ranking single that year, took the best ranked)

[Amped]

Oricon's Yearly Single Sales Rankings 2021 Top 100

Hello! Project

#55 - Morning Musume. '21 "Teenage Solution / Yoshi Yoshi Shite Hoshii no / Beat no Wakusei" (120,435)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/6/

#57 - Morning Musume. '20 "Junjou Evidence / Gyuusaretai Dake na no ni" (119,072)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/6/

#66 - BEYOOOOONDS "Gekikara LOVE / Now Now Ningen (NNN) / Konna Hazujanakatta!" (73,230)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/7/

#71 - Tsubaki Factory "Namida no Heroine Kouban Geki / Garakuta DIAMOND / Yakusoku Renraku Kinenbi" (62,494)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/8/

#81 - ANGERME "Hakkiri Shiyouze" / "Oyogenai Mermaid" / "Aisare Route A or B?" (55,381)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/9/

#92 - Juice=Juice "DOWN TOWN / Ganbarenai yo" (45,784)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/js/y/2021/p/10/

All 5 H!P groups released a single this year and stayed in the Top 100 all year. 6 singles made the Top 100. Morning Musume's singles in December 2020 and December 2021 both count for this year.

Juice=Juice's newest single is counted on next year's Oricon calendar.

out of top 100 :

#255 - Miyamoto Karin "Doushite Bokura ni wa Yaruki ga nai no ka (2021) / Hyoutenka / Kikaku-gai no Romance" (12,587)

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Oricon's Yearly Album Sales Rankings 2021 Top 100

#97 - Morning Musume. '21 "16th~That's J-POP~ (41,993)
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/y/2021/p/10/

out of top 100 :

#231 - Tsubaki Factory "2nd STEP" (16,582)

[Zunu]

That's Morning-san"s best selling album in 15 years!

(last surpassed by Rainbow 7 with 44,714 units in "06)
(I know you mentioned it here but worth repeating in light of the final numbers)

[Celedam]

Hello AI's top 10 Juice=Juice songs…



Also, her top 13 ANGERME (and S/mileage) songs…



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