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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Conan » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:27 am

Sayange wrote:
Conan wrote:How sad from you putting everybody in the same boat. I've read many fanblogs (including mine) that don't say bad stuff and I know many AKB fans who also like and support H!P. That's why I'm saying that you lie. It's not everybody, u know?

In fact, you're using the same points I do. You've read more flaming coming from H!P, I read the opposite, no big deal since I've said most of them, not all.

Nice try junklol, but, what Menno said!

Menno, why is the m capital now? Why is the zero and o now? :!:
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Menno » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:40 am

Conan wrote:Menno, why is the m capital now? Why is the zero and o now? :!:

I thought it would be nice to use my actual name for a change. :hai:
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby AyuHikaru » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:10 am

I like AKB48 on a song to song basis, I ain't got nothing against them, just dont expect me to learn all their names.

I'm not an idol worshipper, I just like Morning Musume/H!P. If I stopped liking H!P I wouldn't suddenly go over to AKB48 because I need an idol fix.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Menno » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:43 am

This whole AKB vs. H!P thing makes me miss SweetS even more.

But anyway, what I like about H!P is that it releases 29 singles and 19 Albums in 2009, that are 48 CD releases in total (-3 if you don't want to count the Hexagon stuff). And since I like Tsunku I'm going to add NGP with 8 CD releases, making it 56.

That are over 100 new H!P songs for us to enjoy, and even though AKB has all these stages they don't have as many new songs. And I like that in H!P the songs keep on coming all year round. And I might not like all of the songs I still can be surprised by some good songs regularly. For example today I first listened to Gamusharara, and it sounded really interesting for KiraRevo song. :)
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Rm88 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:29 am

I love current H!P. And by current H!P, I mean the Elder-less H!P.

Everytime Buono! releases a single, I always think to myself wow, this is so much better than the last one, it will be hard to top. I love Rottara Rottara, just like I've loved the rest of their singles. I want a new Buono! album, with awesome songs like Nakimushi Shounen. And more Momo. This has been a great year for Berryz ^^ Jingisukan, Yuke Yuke and now MADAYADE have become 3 of my favorite H!P songs ever. I want Berryz to keep with the wacky songs, but they should release some Kokuhakus sometimes. Resonant Blue is a cool and catchy song, the PV was good, and it was overall a great single, but for some reason, I prefer Pepper Keibu. I love both songs, Momusu is doing a great job. I can't wait to listen to their cover album, hopefully it'll be as awesome as Pepper Keibu and Romance. While I really like songs like Tokaikko Junjou and Namida no Iro, my favorite °C-ute singles this year have been LALALA Shiawase no Uta and specially Edo no Temari Uta II (my favorite °C song to date). They should do more songs like that! It is refreshing to see them doing cool songs, but I personally find their funnier stuff more enjoyable. It looks like I'm in a minority, but I reallly like both Manopiano and Lucky Aura! I think Manoeri could be a great idol ^^ She's very cute, and I'm sure her voice will gradually improve.

That's it, I'll miss Aya and Miki, but they'll be fine. And Melon Kinenbi is not disbanding! ^^ That makes me really happy.

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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby RpgN » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:46 am

RMitsui88 wrote:I love current H!P. And by current H!P, I mean the Elder-less H!P.

Everytime Buono! releases a single, I always think to myself wow, this is so much better than the last one, it will be hard to top. I love Rottara Rottara, just like I've loved the rest of their singles. I want a new Buono! album, with awesome songs like Nakimushi Shounen. And more Momo. This has been a great year for Berryz ^^ Jingisukan, Yuke Yuke and now MADAYADE have become 3 of my favorite H!P songs ever. I want Berryz to keep with the wacky songs, but they should release some Kokuhakus sometimes. Resonant Blue is a cool and catchy song, the PV was good, and it was overall a great single, but for some reason, I prefer Pepper Keibu. I love both songs, Momusu is doing a great job. I can't wait to listen to their cover album, hopefully it'll be as awesome as Pepper Keibu and Romance. While I really like songs like Tokaikko Junjou and Namida no Iro, my favorite °C-ute singles this year have been LALALA Shiawase no Uta and specially Edo no Temari Uta II (my favorite °C song to date). They should do more songs like that! It is refreshing to see them doing cool songs, but I personally find their funnier stuff more enjoyable. It looks like I'm in a minority, but I reallly like both Manopiano and Lucky Aura! I think [b]Manoeri could be a great idol ^^ She's very cute, and I'm sure her voice will gradually improve.[/b]
That's it, I'll miss Aya and Miki, but they'll be fine. And Melon Kinenbi is not disbanding! ^^ That makes me really happy.

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I like her second single too, but you can't blaim people for being unsure about her. From all the girls, they had to choose her. And her voice isn't really good, though improving. With time and experience, she will improve and maybe loved by more fans.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Pavlova » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:05 am

H!P Kids & Eggs / Strawberry Panic

Aoi Nagisa - Suzuki Airi
Suzumi Tamao - Natsuyaki Miyabi
Hanazono Shizuma - Yajima Maimi
Rokujō Miyuki - Shimizu Saki
Tsukidate Chiyo - Fukuda Kanon
Sakuragi Kaori - Maeda Yuuka
Konohana Hikari - Sugaya Risako
Nanto Yaya - Sudou Maasa
Ohtori Amane - Okai Chisato
Okuwaka Tsubomi - Tokunaga Chinami
Tomori Shion - Nakajima Saki
Kenjo Kaname - Umeda Erika
Kiyashiki Momomi - Tsugunaga Momoko
Minamoto Chikaru - Kumai Yurina
Hyūga Kizuna - Arihara Kanna
Natsume Remon - Mano Erina
Byakudan Kagome - Hagiwara Mai

Morning Musume & Melon Kinenbi & Soloists / Strawberry Panic

Aoi Nagisa - Tanaka Reina
Suzumi Tamao - Kamei Eri
Hanazono Shizuma - Takahashi Ai
Rokujō Miyuki - Niigaki Risa
Tsukidate Chiyo - Mitsui Aika
Sakuragi Kaori - Michishige Sayumi
Konohana Hikari - LinLin
Nanto Yaya - JunJun
Ohtori Amane - Ohtani Masae
Okuwaka Tsubomi - Shibata Ayumi
Tomori Shion - Maeda Yuki
Kenjo Kaname - Murata Megumi
Kiyashiki Momomi - Saitou Hitomi
Minamoto Chikaru - Inaba Atsuko
Hyūga Kizuna - Mano Erina
Natsume Remon - Kusumi Koharu
Byakudan Kagome - Yaguchi Mari

Morning Musume & some kids / Strawberry Panic

Aoi Nagisa - Tanaka Reina
Suzumi Tamao - Kamei Eri
Hanazono Shizuma - Takahashi Ai
Rokujō Miyuki - Niigaki Risa
Tsukidate Chiyo - Mitsui Aika
Sakuragi Kaori - Michishige Sayumi
Konohana Hikari - LinLin
Nanto Yaya - JunJun
Ohtori Amane - Kusumi Koharu
Okuwaka Tsubomi - Natsuyaki Miyabi
Tomori Shion - Sugaya Risako
Kenjo Kaname - Shimizu Saki
Kiyashiki Momomi - Tsugunaga Momoko
Minamoto Chikaru - Yajima Maimi
Hyūga Kizuna - Hagiwara Mai
Natsume Remon - Okai Chisato
Byakudan Kagome - Nakajima Saki
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby hebitsukaiza » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:42 pm

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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby hebitsukaiza » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:42 pm

I'd like to note that I disagree very much that the current H!P is not about talent. Well... maybe not Berryz and C-ute so much since they were recruited while they were still too young to have talent, but some of them turned out to be gems!

But.. it isn't so much about singing talent any more.
Much of 1st and 2nd gen were so dull compared to the current crop. Most were neither cute, charming nor sexy enough to sell tons of club photos and photobooks, their comedic timing was off, their acting ability was horrible and flat (just watch those first two movies!), they didn't have outstanding personalities, they didn't banter with one another like the ones now do...
Granted, there were INDIVIDUAL exceptions to all these statements in those first two groups, but really... the current group across the board has more talent in these areas.
At some point (probably around 4th gen) being able to sing became secondary to being able to put on a good show. They got some acts that could do both pretty well such as Aya and MiniMoni, but primarily those groups that were filled with the skillful singers dropped into obscurity and those that were about showmanship got the attention and promotion.
And... right now H!Ps biggest selling act is LITERALLY a live action group intermerged with a cartoon.

Naomi wrote:
Conan wrote:Naomi, don't. H!P kids love you. Momoko would never leave you. ;(

But I don't like Momoko. XD


Wow! Is it even possible to do that and still be human? :D

Pavlova wrote:H!P Kids & Eggs / Strawberry Panic
....


Therefore....

Suzuki Airi = Tanaka Reina
Natsuyaki Miyabi = Kamei Eri
Fukuda Kanon = Mitsui Aika
Maeda Yuuka = Michishige Sayumi
Sudou Maasa = JunJun
Tsugunaga Momoko = Saitou Hitomi
Tokunaga Chinami = Shibata Ayumi = Natsuyaki Miyabi
Yajima Maimi = Takahashi Ai = Kumai Yurina = Inaba Atsuko
Shimizu Saki = Niigaki Risa = Umeda Erika = Murata Megumi
Arihara Kanna = Mano Erina = Hagiwara Mai = Yaguchi Mari = Nakajima Saki = Mano Erina = Kusumi Koharu = Okai Chisato = Ohtani Masae = Sugaya Risako = LinLin = Maeda Yuki

I don't know whether that last one is the most or the least interesting.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Pavlova » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:33 pm

hebitsukaiza wrote:
Pavlova wrote:H!P Kids & Eggs / Strawberry Panic
....


Therefore....

Suzuki Airi = Tanaka Reina
Natsuyaki Miyabi = Kamei Eri
Fukuda Kanon = Mitsui Aika
Maeda Yuuka = Michishige Sayumi
Sudou Maasa = JunJun
Tsugunaga Momoko = Saitou Hitomi
Tokunaga Chinami = Shibata Ayumi = Natsuyaki Miyabi
Yajima Maimi = Takahashi Ai = Kumai Yurina = Inaba Atsuko
Shimizu Saki = Niigaki Risa = Umeda Erika = Murata Megumi
Arihara Kanna = Mano Erina = Hagiwara Mai = Yaguchi Mari = Nakajima Saki = Mano Erina = Kusumi Koharu = Okai Chisato = Ohtani Masae = Sugaya Risako = LinLin = Maeda Yuki

I don't know whether that last one is the most or the least interesting.


I'll go in terms of couples, because it's funnier that way.. SPOILER ALERT, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN STRAWBERRY PANIC AND INTEND TO, DON'T READ.

So according to my casts...

Miyabi loves Airi, who is somewhat oblivious/uninterested
Maimi and Airi love each other
Captain loves Maimi but hides it well.
Kanon is in love with Airi who barely even notices she exists.
Maimi used to be in love with Yuuka but Yuuka died.
Risako is in love with Chisato, who loves her back.
Maasa is in love with Risako, but Risako isn't interested.
Chinami has a crush on Maasa.
NakaSaki really wants Chisato to represent the school, but Chisato wants nothing to do with it.
Erika is a baddy, and she's in a relationship with Momoko, but secretly loves Chisato.
Momoko is Erika's girlfriend.
Yurina is the big sister figure, along with Captain.
Kanna and Erina might be in a relationship... or maybe not.
Erina DEFINITELY likes Kanna though.
Mai is always in the way of the Erikanna relationship.

OR

Eri loves Reina, who is somewhat oblivious/uninterested
Ai and Reina love each other
Risa loves Ai but hides it well.
Aika is in love with Reina who barely even notices she exists.
Ai used to be in love with Sayumi but Sayumi died.
LinLin is in love with Masae, who loves her back.
JunJun is in love with LinLin, but LinLin isn't interested.
Shibata Ayumi has a crush on JunJun.
Yuki really wants Masae to represent the school, but Masae wants nothing to do with it.
Megumi is a baddy, and she's in a relationship with Hitomi, but secretly loves Masae.
Hitmo is Megumi's girlfriend.
Atsuko is the big sister figure, along with Risa.
ManoEri and Koharu might be in a relationship... or maybe not.
Koharu DEFINITELY likes Eri though.
Mari is always in the way of the KohaEri relationship.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby hebitsukaiza » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:44 am

Pavlova wrote:Ai used to be in love with Sayumi but Sayumi died.


eeeeEEEEHH?!!!
When did this happen?!! ;(
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Naomi » Sat Nov 01, 2008 5:47 am

hebitsukaiza wrote:
Naomi wrote:But I don't like Momoko. XD

Wow! Is it even possible to do that and still be human? :D

What? Not like Momoko? :^)
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby ScyllaIo » Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:08 am

I don't like her either! And I'm human... :emo:
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby hebitsukaiza » Sat Nov 01, 2008 9:05 am

Uh... I think I need joke tags to put on parts of my messages.

Yes, I was playfully questioning if a human could actually dislike glittery and always smiling Momoko. :P
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby boinsie » Fri May 20, 2011 9:39 am

Wow, this is apparently all of the solo lines in A-sides that Tsuji got during her tenure in MM.

[youtube]UWvYdIF7OIw[/youtube]
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby marippeTakacrotchi » Fri May 20, 2011 11:58 am

Really? That's it? That's too bad. I always liked her singing.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby erilaz » Fri May 20, 2011 1:39 pm

Kago's is over three times as long:

[youtube]9viNQPPBLpU[/youtube]

But then, she's Kago. :love:
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Sohee » Fri May 20, 2011 3:30 pm

Tsuji got a lot of duo lines though, and she got a damn lot of screentime so it makes up for it.
Kago, like I wrote over at JPC, definitely one of the best voices MM ever had.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby boinsie » Sat May 21, 2011 1:14 am

Also, back then they did the subgroups and Shuffles, which Tsuji routinely got lines/screentime in.
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Re: The Pointless H!P Musings/Rants Thread

Postby Sohee » Sat May 21, 2011 2:08 am

Yeeeeah. If only they'd do something like this...
High-King is so popular so they'd get their own single.
Tanpopo/Pucchi/Minimoni/ZYX Maxi-single, maxed to the max.
zoku.viyuden gets a single a few months later when it gets announced they're here to stay and will be an active sub-unit; much like Buono! get singles and albums and lives.

And I've written it before but..
High-King: Shimizu Saki, Tanaka Reina, Yajima Maimi, Maeda Yuuka, Sayashi Riho
Tanpopo#: Okai Chisato, Kumai Yurina, Mitsui Aika
Pucchi: Nakajima Saki, Mano Erina, Hagiwara Mai
Minimoni: Miyamoto Karin, Takeuchi Akari, Fukuda Kanon, Suzuki Kanon
ZYX: Niigaki Risa, Tsugunaga Momoko, Tokunaga Chinami, Sudou Maasa, Wada Ayaka, Ogawa Saki, Ikuta Erina
zoku.viyuden: Michishige Sayumi, Sugaya Risako, Fukumura Mizuki


Listen to me, tsoonk gdi. :x
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