[08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Zunu » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:46 pm

Celedam wrote:I obviously can't speak for anyone else, but if it could only be seen via torrent, then I wouldn't bother. Logging onto H!O, starting my torrent client (which is on another computer, my media server), getting the file, and then deleting it when I'm done is much more effort than it's worth just for subs on a PV I've already seen. (No offense, you did a great job.) I'd rather be able to watch it once, while I'm still interested, in the browser, on this computer, and then move on. It's all about the barrier to entry.



Or, on the other hand...you could release soft subs. Just a thought.
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Celedam » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:52 pm

That's soooooooooo 2006!

Actually, I agree completely, and that's what we did at MM-BBS. But after arguing with SacredCultivator et al. about this very thing, I decided it was a lost cause with anyone else.
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby boinsie » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:27 pm

Most people like to lay claim to their translation. If a person/group releases softsubs, they' much more easily "stolen".
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Amped » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:09 pm

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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Zunu » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:51 pm

^^ I've seen a lot of soft-subs available outside of the jpop-idol world, and I don't think I've ever heard of subs being stolen. Obviously it must happen, I wouldn't deny that. But I think the problem is probably overblown, and wouldn't be as pervasive as people think. And if I were really that intent on taking credit for work I didn't do, I could easily just set up an RealUreChiissa.com blog, claim to be UreChiissa and who could prove differently? It's not like anybody's got that name on their driver's license. Expropriating someone's internet nick isn't much more work than reediting their srt files. Not to mention, there exist programs such as SubRip which can extract hard subs with their timings, so they are not an impregnable barrier to plagiarism. Also, as Celedam's example shows, hard subbing something might actually discourage some people from downloading your sub, especially if means redownloading that multi GB+ file they already have an .AVI and H.264 of. So your hard work wind ups with less exposure and recognition than the soft sub would provide. Finally, while both soft and hard subs technically have copyright issues, hard subs present a much broader legal target, and to the same extent that they allow a person to individually "lay claim" to the translation, they also allow the copyright holders to "lay blame" in that regard.

TLDR: Soft subs don't really cause the problem people think they cause and hard subs don't really prevent the problem people think they prevent.

But anyway, I'm not complaining either way.
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Celedam » Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:04 pm

^ Pretty much exactly what I said, way back when.

Perversely, since many subtitling groups value the quantity / frequency of their releases over the quality of them, their actual subs are often bad. Bad translation, bad editing, or both. With soft subs, those problems can be quietly corrected for personal use, but the groups consider their subs to be inviolable, so... *shrug*
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby Amped » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:19 am

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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

Postby GreeeeN » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:19 pm

Good 2nd week!
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Re: [08/03] S/mileage - 6th single "Uchouten LOVE"

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