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[wotakubrandon]

Was not cute, below average singing, not a stand out dancer,

Y'all say pretty off when judging these tho...

[Starra]

This turned into a long incomprehensible rant. It's 3AM, so I should probably sleep...

Spoiler: show

Honestly, I've never been a fan of Rie. Since she joined, she's never appealed to me. I've tried to like her, I really have. I try to like every girl. But, unfortunately, there are some cases where that just doesn't happen. Rie is one of those cases.

It's not so much that she's a bad performer or anything -- I just never felt like she left that much of an impression. She was just kinda always... there. She didn't stand out amongst the other KKS in any way, despite having been in the group for much longer than most of them.

There are very few H!P members that never grow on me. Usually, over time, I'll end up at least liking them somewhat. It's happened several times -- Haruka, Sakura, Sayuki, etc. But for whatever reason, it didn't happen with Rie. She was there for over 5 years, and she didn't leave much of an impression on me. And the little impression she did leave was a slightly negative one. Hell, I'm more interested in some of the Eggs who were in the group for, like, a year than I'll ever be in Rie.

Usually with members I'm not a fan of, I can at least acknowledge their good points. Chisato, for example, is a very good singer. And Shimizu is an excellent dancer. But with Rie, she didn't... really have any good points. I don't even know if she had many points at all that stood out to me.

I don't want to dislike idols; I never do. I try to like them all, at least the ones in H!P. But, unfortunately, that just sometimes doesn't happen. Believe me, I'd be a fan of every H!P member if I could. I love H!P that much. And it makes me feel bad when I just cannot bring myself to like a girl. They're human beings who are doing their best to entertain people. They pour their hearts and souls into every single thing they do -- even things we don't always realise. I feel like people are way too harsh on idols a lot of the time. I know I'm guilty of this, but I'm trying to get better about it. I'm also aware that they'll never read any of the things foreign fans say about them, but I still... don't like being too negative. Criticism is fine, of course. But constantly hating is not.

Though in the end, just because I'm not a fan of a girl doesn't mean I don't appreciate all the effort she makes every day of her life in order to be an idol. I really do appreciate all idols, and not just my favourites. They're doing something I could never dream of doing, and I really admire each and every one of them. And because of that, I want each of them to leave a good impression on me.

[iceymoon]

Was not cute, below average singing, not a stand out dancer,

Y'all say pretty off when judging these tho...

the first is pretty subjective since i'm sure some people do find her cute, but as far as popular opinion goes, she was not considered one of the cute ones. definitely not the kind that you could think well, she may not be a great singer/dancer but she'll probably get by on looks alone.

her singing was definitely below average. i remember assuming she was a good singer because she'd been around for so long, but then i heard a few of her solos and... was surprised. not a train wreck or anything, she wasn't bad as some of the worst singers in Kenshuusei right now but she was below the level of the other senior Kenshuusei like Tanapyon, Hamachan, Kurumi, Tagucchi, Murotan, Kaedii.. and Rie had been around a lot longer than all of them and received the same training, so lack of training/development was less of a factor. just lack of talent.

she was fine at dancing but she wasn't any better than the other senior Kenshuusei dancers, hence "not a stand out" one. Sasaki stands out, Murotan stands out, Kurumi stands out (and i don't really like her, this isn't bias). Rie didn't, in fact there are some points in dance shots when i distinctly noticed she seemed to lack energy.

[Starra]

Nakazawa Yuuko BIRTHDAY☆LIVE 2014 setlist:
1. Shanghai no Kaze
2. Tokyo Bijin
MC
3. Nagaragawa no Hare
4. Tokyo (song by Yashiki Takajin)
MC
5. Good Morning
Costume change, band performance
MC
6. Karasu no Nyoubou
7. Odaiba Moonlight Serenade - walking through the audience
8. Odaiba Moonlight Serenade - performance with four female fans who won rock-paper-scissors
MC - Ishiguro Aya appears with a birthday cake. Everyone sings happy birthday.
9. LOVE Machine
MC
10. SEXY BOY〜Soyokaze ni Yorisotte〜 - with Ogawa Makoto
11. Onna ga Medatte Naze Ikenai
12. Kuyashi Namida Porori
13. GET ALONG WITH YOU

Encore
14. Imasugu Kiss Me (song by Lindberg)
15. DO MY BEST

Double encore
Greetings


http://ameblo.jp/ishiguro-aya/entry-11878482342.html
http://ameblo.jp/ogawamakoto-blog/entry ... 32622.html

[Amped]

Utage 6-16-14 - Reina, Keichan perform Otsuka Ai's Sakuranbo


next week 6/23, the same people will be on Utage again
http://www.tbs.co.jp/UTAGE2014/

[koregaboku]

I'm glad that Reina's getting booked for shows (and thus gettin' paid) however it annoys me that the other girls from groups got their group names in parentheses (E-Girls, HKT, etc) so why couldn't they put LonvendoR?

Now people who casually watch this are probably still thinking "Oh that MM OG" where they could be thinking "Oh that former MM girl is in a new group?"-> google LovendoR and maybe become new fans.

Sigh. I'm mad.

[Sohee]

idk why they didn't put it, but she talked abt it in the opening so it's not like the group wasn't promoted. :b

[BerryzCelebration]

On some TV shows, when they introduce the members, they usually put what group they're from next to their name, or just mention the group. Like, 'Talk about your newest song' or 'What is it like in the group?' or 'How are your kouhai?'. I haven't watched this particular video though, so I wouldn't know.

[Sohee]

Yeah, on average music shows that are used mainly for the guests' PR purposes they ask things like that. UTAGE isn't that kind of show. Reina wasn't the actual guest, she was a singer on the show, because that's how it works, along with all the other... I don't know, 10? Artists there.
Just like the AKB girls, and E-girls and whatever, which all had their group name in brackets and Reina didn't, that's what koregaboku is asking about. The guest was Kawabata Kaname from CHEMISTRY.

Reina did talk about the group however, though it wasn't because anyone asked her about it, she said that that's what she's doing these days.

I'm wondering if it has anything to do with being indies or major? Probably doesn't, but yeah. At least the group got promoted (with pic) a bit.
Even Eri got shortly promoted (with pic) when Reina talked abt Sashihara being a fan. ;~; Eri come baaaack

[koregaboku]

On some TV shows, when they introduce the members, they usually put what group they're from next to their name, or just mention the group. Like, 'Talk about your newest song' or 'What is it like in the group?' or 'How are your kouhai?'. I haven't watched this particular video though, so I wouldn't know.

So...
You should watch the video before commenting. Just a thought.